ChallengerModel A
Challenger 65C
Crawler
- power
- 285 hp
- displacement
- 638 ci
- Cylinders
- 6
- Forward gears
- 10
Head to head · Crawler
Challenger 65C vs John Deere 6165J
John DeereModel B
John Deere 6165J
Utility
- power
- 165 hp
- displacement
- 414 ci
- Cylinders
- 6
- Forward gears
- 16
ChallengerChallenger 65C
vs
John DeereJohn Deere 6165J
How they compare
Headline specs vs. the whole Crawler
Engine Power
▲ 65C higher · +120 hp (+73%)65C285 hp
6165J165 hp
Median Crawler Tractor200 hp
65C is in the 64th percentile; 6165J is in the 49th · 142 models
Engine Displacement
▲ 65C higher · +224 ci (+54%)65C638 ci
6165J414 ci
Median Crawler Tractor468 ci
65C is in the 70th percentile; 6165J is in the 46th · 191 models
Cylinders
= Effectively tied65C6
6165J6
Median Crawler Tractor6
65C is in the 50th percentile; 6165J is in the 50th · 192 models
Forward Gears
▲ 6165J higher · +6 (+60%)65C10
6165J16
Median Crawler Tractor10
65C is in the 50th percentile; 6165J is in the 69th · 179 models
65C (A)6165J (B)Median Crawler Tractor
Full comparison
Every spec, side by side
General Information
| Spec | Challenger 65C | John Deere 6165J | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Manufacturer | Challenger | John Deere | — |
| Model | 65C | 6165J | — |
| Category | Crawler | Utility | — |
Engine
| Spec | Challenger 65C | John Deere 6165J | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Manufacturer | Caterpillar | John Deere | — |
| Model | 3306 DITA | 6068 PowerTech | — |
| Power Output | 285hp | 165hp | ▲ 65C+120 hp · +73% |
| Rated RPM | 2,100RPM | 2,100RPM | Same |
| Cylinders | 6 | 6 | Same |
| Displacement | 638ci | 414ci | ▲ 65C+224 ci · +54% |
| Bore | 4.8in | 4.2in | ▲ 65C+0.6 in · +14% |
| Stroke | 6in | 5in | ▲ 65C+1 in · +20% |
Transmission
| Spec | Challenger 65C | John Deere 6165J | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Type | Full power shift | Partial power shift | — |
Dimensions & Weight
| Spec | Challenger 65C | John Deere 6165J | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Length | 232in | 213in | ▲ 65C+19 in · +9% |
| Width | 120in | Not recorded | — |
| Height | 128in | 115in | ▲ 65C+13 in · +11% |
| Operating Weight | 32,875lb | 15,190lb | ▲ 65C+17,685 lb · +116% |
Hydraulics
| Spec | Challenger 65C | John Deere 6165J | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| System Type | Closed center | Closed center pressure-flow compensated (PFC) | — |
| Steering Type | Not recorded | Power steering | — |
Hitch & Towing
| Spec | Challenger 65C | John Deere 6165J | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Hitch Category | III/IV | Category 3 | — |
| Hitch Position | Rear | Rear | Same |
Chassis & Drive
| Spec | Challenger 65C | John Deere 6165J | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Chassis Type | Not recorded | 4x4 MFWD 4WD | — |
| Drive Type | Not recorded | 4WD | — |
| Steering Type | Not recorded | Power steering | — |
Electrical
| Spec | Challenger 65C | John Deere 6165J | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Starter Type | Electric | 12-volt | — |
Capacities
| Spec | Challenger 65C | John Deere 6165J | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| Coolant | 11gal | Not recorded | — |
Category context
Both models against the field
Engine Power
median 200 hpA · 64th percentile (285 hp)B · 49th percentile (165 hp)
Engine Displacement
median 468 ciA · 70th percentile (638 ci)B · 46th percentile (414 ci)
Cylinders
median 6A · 50th percentile (6)B · 50th percentile (6)
Forward Gears
median 10A · 50th percentile (10)B · 69th percentile (16)
Operating Weight
median 23,320 lbA · 68th percentile (32,875 lb)B · 44th percentile (15,190 lb)
A · 65CB · 6165JMedian Crawler Tractor